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The Long-Time Leaders September 1, 2016

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Please notice that this is not a ranking, but a timeline of the most famous names  and only until about 1950.

Names that most kids would know by the age of about 11

Moses
Homer
Jesus
Caesar
Columbus
Michelangelo
Shakespeare
Napoleon
Churchill
Einstein

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Names that most people would know by the age of about 25

1450 Moses ………………………….  political leader and the greatest legislator
850   Homer…………………………. poet and creator of Greek mythology
470   Socrates …………… philosopher who tried to frustrate bogus knowledge
428   Plato…………………………. philosopher who discovered abstraction
384   Aristoteles ……..  philosopher who established logics in discursive science
356   Alexander…………………………. military genius who set up an empire
004   Jesus……………….. the founder of Christianity
100   Caesar ……………………..  military and political genius and historian
1265 Dante…………………………. poet creator of the humanist universe
1451 Columbus……………………………….  the discoverer of a “new world”
1475 Michelangelo…….  greatest in  ability, effort, intellect, and achievement
1451 Leonardo…………………………. most versatile genius of the Renaissance
1481 Luther………. Catholic monk and theologian who challenged Catholic power
1564 Shakespeare……………………….  for most  people the greatest poet
1574 Cervantes………………… or rather his creation, the Quixote
1642 Newton…………….. physicist who developed the laws of gravitation and motion
1724 Kant…………. philosopher who tried to define the limits of what can be known
1732 Washington …………………  political and military leader in the US revolution
1756 Mozart…………………………. for most people the greatest composer
1769 Napoleon…………………………. military genius that won and lost an empire
1818 Marx….philosopher who turned workers’ numerical strength into political power
1844 Nietzsche………. philosopher who figured out the psychology of atheism
1856 Freud………….. psychologist who turned sexuality into a public issue
1874 Churchill…………….. WWII hero and greatest military writer
1879 Einstein…………………………. greatest physicist of modern times
1881 Picasso………………. most popular artist of modern times.

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A third timeline would be twice as long and even more subjective.
Science people would include many more names of those that tried to understand nature.
And what about the great inventors?
But the list stops around 1950 to see what names would last.
The drawing of  Diogenes resting in his barrel is by Wilhelm Busch.  —

Diogenes is famous for teaching that money and fame are not worth the trouble.

who cares

Below is the same list as a JPEG.

.famous names of history

 

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1. Leonard S. Forster - March 8, 2008

Where is Montesquiou, who is basic in modern constitutional philosophy?
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Sorry, I did not see your message.
The people on the list are not any preferences of mine. Montesquiou? I do not think that name is widely known. Is he the one who wrote about memories from “outre-tombe” (the book I lent to a US tourist who never gave it back?)?

2. johnnypeepers - March 8, 2008

The third one needs to include all of the winners of American Idol, Colonel Sanders, and The Pillsbury Dough Boy. These additions are a reflection on what people find important in the contemporary era.
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Notice that there isn’t anybody still alive. I thought the line should be drawn at around 1950 to see whether a name will last. It is after all not at all a ranking. Most people on the list would have a very low popularity ranking.

3. moonbeammcqueen - March 8, 2008

LOL @ johnnypeepers. Add Ronald McDonald, the Verizon guy and Britney Spears.
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Can’t! Picasso was the last to get in. After that it is not possible to know what names might last.

4. moonbeammcqueen - March 8, 2008

(Great list cantueso)
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Thank you, Moonbeam!

5. enghtj55 - March 9, 2008

Hammurabi’s code is much older and much better in every way. It was the first code of law in human history. You ought to look it up at
http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/CODE.HTM
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But that is not known! I have also heard of it, but very few times, and I do not know any of its laws. Some say that Moses based his code on Hammurabi’s. Some say that Moses is legendary. Whatever the origin, the point is that the short version that came on stone tablets is the best known law ever made. You wouldn´t happen to know whether Mohammed also included it in his book?

6. 100swallows - March 9, 2008

The idea is good, but I believe you would have to mention Ceasar’s political genius. Alexander did not just conquer, but also established an empire. And Mozart has to be included as the greatest composer.
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To the 100 swallows:
Thank you for your corrections and suggestions. As you can see, the list is a JPEG. I will correct it next week end.

7. David - March 9, 2008

Thought-provoking listing cantueso, thanks for posting it. I have only one serious suggested addition, which is Gautama Buddha. I’ll refrain from offering the jokes this time.
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I mentioned Buddha as belonging to the third selection. I hear him mentioned quite often, but invariably by people who are rather more than 25 years old. That third selection would be different for every adult because of that routine or specialization or self-definition that comes with adulthood.

8. engths35 - April 1, 2008

Now how you differenciated “European” awareness from US awareness if according to your own admisstion the list was partly to be based on Google stats is beyond me to imagine. If you could kindly explain I am sure even the Google team would be interested in your method which must truly be ground-braking and can at once be turned into $ or €.
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To engths35
Thank you for your suggestion. Originally I had said “European awareness”. doesn’t “Western” sound Bushish Allied?

9. Mrs Greensleaves - April 2, 2008

I believe that Beethoven was a greater composer than Mozart. Mozart’s name may be more widely known because he did opera, and even though the opera public is rather small, most people would have seen his name in that context on billboards and especially on TV.

If you are not on TV, at least in England, yoiu don’t exist. It is really that simple.
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To Mrs Greensleeves

I really do not have the slightest idea about those composers. Remember that the list is not a ranking. I believe that Mozart’s image is more popular than his music, and his name gets about 30% more hits on Google than Beethoven’s, maybe because he died young and is often linked to free-masonry. “Beethoven” is hard to remember for people who are not of North European background.

10. stella35 - May 13, 2008

There are no women here, and I suppose the omission is both accidental and symptomatic, because it seems to me that you very simply forgot. Mrs Curie would maybe not make such an exclusive list, but what about Cleopatra? Helen of Troy? (Hillary Clinton :-)?

11. cantueso - May 13, 2008

To Stella

You are right! I forgot the women. There seem to be very few of that kind of broadly based popular fame. I can only think of six or seven : Eva, Cleopatra, Helen of Troy, Mary, Joan of Arc, Marie Curie. Marilyn Monroe is as famous as these, but she is after 1950. There is the Kraut as Hemingway called Marlene Dietrich, but I am not sure she is that famous.

12. Rags55 - May 16, 2008

I see you are really having trouble finding some women to list here. And where did you get all these new avatars?

13. stella35 - May 18, 2008

I have also been wondering where the women are. You know it is quite easy to make a list, because you can find them on the internet, and all you’d have to do is download and shorten. I am looking forward to reading you soon!

14. cantueso - May 21, 2008

To Rags and Stella:

I forgot about this, on the one hand, and on the other, it is rather difficult to find names that ring a bell in most places. There are many women writers, poets, and scientists, but they are not widely known. I have not yet decided what should be done.
I am signing in with my other e-mail address to see what avatar that gets me.

15. Kings (aka Reyes) - July 9, 2008

¡A ver! Sigues sin mencionar a las mujeres. ¿Tan difícil te parece?!
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Translated:
Let’s see. You still do not mention the women. Does it seem so difficult to you?

16. cantueso - October 18, 2008

Sí, diría que este nivel de fama lo alcanzaron solamente María (la Virgen) y Cleópatra. Si estuviesen estas dos, la omisión de todas las demás se haría más patente. ¿Y Marie Curie ? No es comparable. Si hasta Blancanieves es más conocida que Marie Curie.

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Translated
I’d say that this level of fame was reached only by Cleopatra and Mary. If these two were included, the omission of all the others would be even more striking. Marie Curie? Not comparable. Even Snow-white is more widely known than Marie Curie.

17. Esther - January 10, 2009

There are hundreds of women in history who are known about. Florence Nightingale for example. What about Queens and rulers? Writers such as Virginia Woolf, Mary Wollstonecraft, Jane Austen, Mary Shelley, George Eliot, Bronte sisters, Emily Dickenson, Anne Frank. To name but a few writers.Anna Pavlova, MArie Curie, MArie ANtoinette, Mary Austin,EMmeline Pankhurst etc. To name but a very few off the top of my head.

18. cantueso - January 10, 2009

To Esther:

But those are not “names that most people would know by the age of…” as stipulated above.

Your “etc.” in this case was sort of tell-tale.

19. karl2ar - January 8, 2010

Aquinas? I saw him mentioned less than a week ago you’d never guess the context. Euthanasia legislation.

20. Almudena_zr - February 14, 2010

I think you might profit from some Barbershop Dharma

http://killingthebuddha.com/mag/confession/barbershop-dharma/

21. gema_molinero - August 29, 2010

Podrías poner Santa Teresa y Felipe II

22. Carl D'Agostino - September 10, 2011

Pre college youth in America would know of very few of these famous people.

23. cantueso - September 10, 2011

Really!? I would have thought that they would not know Churchill and Homer, but the rest?

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